Homosexuality in Catholism

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admin · Site Admin Joined: 07 Jul 2006 Posts: 1008

Because I think JiHye and Measuringtime mentioned it.

And I don't know a lot on the subject and am curious if anyone does. There are a lot of homosexuals who are christians of course. Does anyone know much on the subject. Or know anyone who are gay catholic's or is a gay catholic themselves. JiHye made a comment albiet rather absently about Gay Catohlic being an oxy-moron. Which I think is true in respects to the connotations of the words. However the beliefs of society don't have any barings on what you are, regardless of it's effects on who you are. So what do you think it?
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Yami no Kaze · Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 11:17 am Post subject:

four of my friends are gay, and two of them regularly attend church twice a week. The idea is that we were put here to reproduce, and because two men cannot reproduce physically, it's concidered a sin. I for one obviously cannot say what kind of trouble waits for them, if any, but I belive it has more to do with the life rather than punishment after death.

This was actually brought up on a website about the lesbians in Sailor Moon. Haruka wears a cross therefore she must be Christian and not gay. Or at least that's how they think. If it's a sin to be gay than that doesn't stop you from having faith. Everyone sins in one way or another, it's in our nature to test the rules. But if you're Christian and you steal something, does that mean you're not anymore?

I'm really not sure what the conciquences are to that, but I refuse to believe that anyone would go to hell for loving another person. An internet friend of mine quoted the line where everyone gets this from. It's something along the lines of "he who lay with another man, their own blood shall be upon their heads." Personally this makes no sense to me. How people get "you're going to hell when you die!" out of that is something i'll never understand.

Though here's something to think about. If I remember correctly she quoted that to me from the Old Testiment, in which God tells us to forget. Only rely on the New Testement. In which case it shouldn't be recognized at all. If you put it into the context of why it's "wrong" it makes some sense, but I don't see it as something that needs to be pushed.

In an opposing point to my above, it must be said that there is a reason for everything. If our lives truly are predetermined by a higher power than surely there must be a need for people to be gay.

Wheather it's wrong, or a mute point; it is definately wrong the way these people are treated. I believe in fair equel rights for every person on this planet and have experienced that hate first hand. It wasn't really ever questioned. They thought I was gay in high school and so they tormented me.

^^; wow this is long and contridicting. It's kinda sad to say, but it's because of the St. Micheal's arc that I finally understood why they called it forbiddon love. In any case my loyalties lye with peace and I don't believe that you can't be both Christian and gay. Kinda like saying you can't be a sister and a mother. They're really two seperate agendas. ^^;;; I hope I haven't confused or annoyed you.
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I agree with you on the whole you can be gay and christian. and its good to look at an argument from both sides.

admin · Site Admin Joined: 07 Jul 2006 Posts: 1008

Why haven't I answered this???

That's really interesting I always felt that way too. That was sweet. I mean thinking about homoseuality, I mean, I imagine a line, and at one end there's extremely straight, like really really only likes the opposite sex, and at the other end there's extremely gay, like completely totally only same sex relationship please kinda thing. And then I feel that most people are in the middle.

I think there's love and people are too quick to label it or give it a structure on how it must be expressed between certain people. People love people and some feel that they want to express it intimately with someone because that's the kind of love they feel-sometimes it's with someone of the same sex but it might just be that person of the same sex ALONE they feel that way about and may not even wish for a traditional lovers relationship just a desire to give everything because of their love-why does there have to be label for that and everything else, it's just one example but I kinda hope you know what I mean.

Gay-bi, hetero. I know it's comfortable and more ordered that way, but love is love and humans make no sense, neither does the emotion. So essentially this mystery is almost impossible to figure out. That's what I think, a bit.

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