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Conspiracies, Mysteries and theories*looks up*That's a lot of misspelled "ies" in the title. After looking at this page on Katcom: http://katcom.squidkitty.org/Mysteries.html I was wondering if anyone else here has any unsolved ponderings, theories or conspiracy theories concerning any events or characters in YnM. Even for me there were a lot of moments that made me go urgh??? and then attempt to connect the dots. Using any examples from the link is fine. Thoughts anyone?? |
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| laustic |
I remember when I started reading volume 6 I was expecting to find out why Hisoka was always so sleepy but it never was explained. Then in the beginning of volume 7 Hisoka talked about how he kept having dreams of Muraki raping him and I thought 'Oh, maybe its in this arc when I'll find out what's wrong with him.' And again, it was never explained why Hisoka was having those dreams. I thought it had to do something with his connection to Muraki but I'll never know.
Another thing that confused me was why Watari and Tsuzuki let Hisoka go off by himself in Kyoto when they all suspected that it was Muraki behind the killings. Also in the beginning of volume 7 I was astonished by Tsuzuki's callous attitude toward Hisoka. Since when did Tsuzuki need Tatsumi to tell him to take care of his partner. When there's something wrong with Hisoka, Tsuzuki's always the first (and sometimes the only) one to notice. |
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| Rhea-sama |
He doesn't, but that doesn't mean that Tatsumi can't worry either. (And remember, Hisoka hates and resents being treated like a child) |
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| laustic |
Yeah, I know that Tatsumi cares but I just didn't like how Tsuzuki seemed to resent being told to look after his partner. He just seemed so out of character in that scene. | ||
| Rhea-sama |
I think he resented being told to, not necessarily the looking after. But that's just me ^^; |
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| pyro_o |
His obsession with power really does stand in the way. But not only his power, but his past.
He's not used to people taking care of him- left alone in his basement and mistreated by his family. You don't get used to a soft, loving touch for another few millenia, considering Hisoka's psychological scars. Being told what's good for him and being taken care of is like a thorn in his side, I think. Irritating, and rather painful once you realize it's there. Telling Hisoka what to do, when to do it.. it's more of an annoyance. It demeans him, and demotes him to a lesser position, I think. Which just.. pisses the hell off of Hisoka, being as power-hungry as possible. >_>? |
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I had the same instant reaction, not that I was upset, but I kinda quirked an eyebrow, like, hur? Regardless of how that's read, that's what that scene initially looks like with the way it's worded. Especially the, "your not my dog", Though of course we all establish that Hisoka doesn't like being treated like a kid. He practically tells us throughout the manga. Anyway any other mysteries, you can actually answer or give your view on the link above as well Actually I myself am curious as to why Hisoka had that creepy, she's mmMMMMYy mother thing going on in book 6. It's weird considering that it's supposed to reflect the characters true feelings. I was kinda like. Urgh?? |
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| pyro_o |
What creepy eyes?
*cannot remember* |
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| laustic |
Are you referring to the book arc? I was confused as well about the book world reflecting the character's true feelings. I really would have liked some more Luka/Hisoka interaction. We don't know how bookHisoka felt about Luka/Tsuzuki except that he didn't want his father to remarry but that doesn't mean he hated Luka. So now I'm left wondering what is Hisoka's true feelings. | ||
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Oh yeah that's true. Since she would have represented Tsuzuki it would have been interesting to see Hisoka's real reactions to her. Though that book is mainly about Tatsumi Tsuzuki so maybe Matsushita didn't really focus on anyone elses true feelings and kinda had them in there as supporting chracters moving the story along. I will always be baffled by that though, Hisoka's strong determination for he's father not to remarry, I never understood the true feelings part of that, it was creepy, and sorry it was more like, HhhhhHHhhheeeee's my mothers, wasn't it. Oh yeah talking about the count, they did get the whole Tatsumi ruling the roost thing down didn't they. But a few things were a little, urgh?
I thought Tsuzuki and Ruka would have made a cute couple though. Especially when she comforted Tsuzuki, I was like HA own medicine. Taste it's objective flavour! awww. (Maybe I should add that to my closet *adding*) |
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| laustic |
Another thing that is a complete mystery to me is Hisoka's curse. We really know nothing about that curse and I have to wonder if Hisoka has ever attempted to find out anything about it. I want to know what type of curse it is. I remember reading a fanfic where Hisoka was trying to investigate his curse and he found it under sexual curses. I have wondered if it was that type of curse but I don't know since Muraki never really made it clear when he placed that curse. At least I don't think he made any mention of it. I could be wrong. I'm not entirely sure if Muraki even knows that much about the curse. He was surprised to find out that he has a bond with Hisoka even after Hisoka's death so I take it he even didn't know the strength of that curse. Also, remember in the beginning of the third arc where Hisoka heard Muraki calling to him. Muraki didn't seem to have any idea that he was doing that either. So I have a feeling that Muraki doesn't fully understand the hold he has over Hisoka. | ||
| pyro_o |
A sexual curse? First time I've ever heard of that- fanfic or no.
And I don't think I quite like the idea of Luka and Tsuzuki. Excuse me for being rather conservative, but the idea of any brother and sister together just makes me slightly squeamish, at some point. Ehh.. His curse? I have the feeling that all throughout the book, Muraki knew exactly what he was doing- either that, or he knew how to twist things to his advantage, exactly how he wants it to be. Maybe it'll be revealed later on in the book- right now, the series focuses a lot on Tsusoka, and such... So it'll be interesting, Hisoka with all his complexes. 
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| laustic |
There was a fanfic that had Hisoka trying to find out more about his curse and when he opened a book he found a chapter on curses through sexual acts. I read this months ago but I can't remember the author, title or if it was even completed.
It wouldn't surprise me if this was the kind of curse Muraki performed. It sounds so like him. |
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| laustic |
I feel rather squicky by the idea of a brother/sister relationship going beyond family relations, but it's just a feeling I have that Tsuzuki's forbidden love is his sister. I think it makes a lot of sense. |
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| Editor |
OFF TOPIC NOTE: Don't watch revolutionary girl utena, read the duchess of malfi, or flowers in the attic and stay away from the hamiltons.
ON TOPIC: the ministry still have Kazusa working there right? (wow and Hisoka thought he had it hard with he's young body) What does she do?? |
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| laustic |
I didn't realize that Kazusa worked for the ministry. I have to wonder, what can she do there? |
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| Editor |
Well Sagtanasu didn't want the ministry to get hold of Kazusa because of her powers, she would be of a great use to the ministry and a threat to a demon like Sagtanasu. And since Watari says "we'll look after her....I promise", I always assumed she'd stay on with somewhere in the ministry for awhile. | ||
| laustic |
That does make sense. Other demons might go after her as well because of her power. She probably would be safer staying with the Ministry. | ||
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You mean if she was reincarnated?? Would she still have that power if she was reincarnated? |
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| laustic |
I think she would still have her powers. I think it's a part of her soul. I think it's the same with Hisoka. If he ever reincarnates, I think he would still have his empathy. | ||
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That would be interesting. I've always wondered if the cast have access to their previous lives. What the *beep* was Muraki last time round O.o | ||