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pyro_o

If You Could Mess with YnM...

what would you change about the many arcs of Yami no Matsuei? What would you tweak? What would you mess with, to make it more dramatic, gory, romantic?

And, supposing that you would be able to make your own arc.. what would happen? who would be in it? Would you add a new character? A new villain?

Curiosity, chaos, and creativity abounds!
laustic

I would have had Tsuzuki and Hisoka kiss in the Kyoto arc. I meant they were mere inches away from doing so when Hisoka was comforting Tsuzuki!

I also would have changed the Devil's Trill a little or at least added more about the Tsuzuki/Hisoka relationship. Its obvious that Hijiri has feelings for Tsuzuki and Tsuzuki certainly flirted with him and I do think that at least a part of it was because he looked like Hisoka. Saganatsu (sp?) was able to see into Tsuzuki's memories and so he must have known something about Hisoka. Just think of the drama that could have ensued when Hisoka confronted possessed Tsuzuki.
Jani_chan

too many ideaaasss JiHye XDDDD How dare you mock my braaiinnnn XDDDDDDDDDD
lol j/kj/k

I would soooo add another arc later in the manga where Hijiri reappears. Something like he's grown up some and he meets up with them because someone he cares a lot about was killed by a demon and he's hunting the thing, no matter how much they tell him that he shouldn't.

MORE IDEAAASSS XD I have to MAANNYYYY XD
laustic

I love to see Hijiri come back. Yoko did say that she might bring him back sometime. It would also be interesting to see Hijiri bein drawn as a little older. Would he be a famous violin player the next time they see him? Would Tsuzuki flirt with him like in the Devil's Trill arc? It would be awesome to see Hi-chan again!
Jani_chan

okies.... srsly ficcing now xDDDD toooo maannyy fiiiccsss XDDDDD

lol, and wouldn't it be great if there was an arc that was acting like the ending season show of a televised broadcast? Like.... random arc where they re-meet all of the people they met before? XDD fun XD I can see it now....

Hisoka walks into a room to find hijiri and Hisae fighting. "HE'S MINE!!!" "NO, MINE!!!" "HANDS OFF!!!" "NO WAY!!!! GET YOU GRUBBY MITTS OFFA HIM!!!!!" Tsuzuki's in the middle and he's got the puppy ears and tail, whimpering. He gives Hisoka a pleading look and Hisoka sighs and pulls him away from them. "You're both wrong," he says, "he's mine."

OMFG I have to stop.... this is turning into Jerry Springer XDDDDDD
laustic

That would be cute to see. Hisoka needs to make sure people keep their hands off his man. Wink
Jani_chan

OMFG, laustic, I srsly LOLd at that XDDDDDD

For some reason I want to see Watari succeed in turning Hisoka into a girl. Just because XDDDDD
laustic

It would be pretty funny to see Hisoka turned into a girl. He would be so angry, especially if Yuma and Saya decide to have a field day with Pink House.
pyro_o

I think there was a really really funny fic up on Squidkitty about Hisoka turning into a girl, and having Oriya's baby, or sth.

(didn't we talk about this, once upon a time?? XDD)
laustic

Yeah there was a fic where Hisoka was turned into a girl and in order to turn back he had to lose his virginty. He went to Oriya for this problem and 9 months later he appeared claiming the baby was Oriya's but it turned out he was only joking.
Jani_chan

OMFG XDDDD that's a trip and a half. I saw a doujinshi where he was turned into a girl and he had to turn into a boy again by losing his virginity, like the fic Laustic mentioned. Tsu enjoyed it and Soka fell asleep :p OMFG though. the outfit Saya and yuma put him in XDDDD
laustic

I think that I saw the doujinshi before! It looked pretty amusing Smile
Chazmy

Sense being the only Muraki/ Tsuzuki fan to reply to this.

I would change the outcome of the poker bet. { yep! another one of your Muraki should of taped that fine shinigami ass ,people}

I would just love to see what Yoko Matsushita would have in store for us if that would of happened { So thinking of the many possiblities}
laustic

I would like to see more about Hisoka's past with his parents, like what kind of family were they before they discovered Hisoka's empathy. Also, I would like to see the reaction of the village when Hisoka became ill from Muraki's curse. Were they scared about what would happen when the Kurosaki heir died?
Editor

I would have liked to have seen more on Muraki's past in Kyoto, not in detail mind you, but precise glimspes that would tell you a bit more, especially concerning Saki and he's mother--which I'm sure we only see in the book anyway. Mysterious shots of Ukyou would of been a nice touch as well.

MORE ON ENMA!!

I would've liked to have an arc that reveals something shocking about Watari. And it would be nice to learn how the hell these random, ridiculously chirpy cracked out girls of Hokkadio came to be shimigami's, I mean, wtf, because Saya and Yuma just don't much fit the bill. Other than the fact they're dead.

I think--I can't remember the name of the arc but the search for the counts mask was a bit funny but could of been more interesting, and I would have liked to have known a bit more on the counts connection to Tsuzuki because I was all WTF when I saw the end of that.

Is it so bad that I wanted (book)Ruka/Tsuzuki and Tsuzuki to kiss a bit when she comforts him i.e gives him a taste of he's own medicine.

Dammit I wanted Terazuma to kiss Hisoka in the archery contest, that's what I wanted from that arc dammit, and then everybodies facial expressions afterwards ^__^

In a book saturated with yaoi it would of been nice to have seen more indepth Chisuruu and Rika in book six I think.
laustic

It would've been entertaining to see Terazuma kissing Hisoka and it would be even more entertaining to see Tsuzuki's reaction  Smile

I agree that I would love to find out more about Watari's past.  I also would like to know more about Tatsumi as well.
Editor

I'm not sure if at this date I would be interested in knowing much about Tatsumi's past as I would of been during book 5, which I thought was sweet but not one of the best books of the series. I'm probably most curious about Tatsumi's /royal/ lifestyle and how he's mother actually looked. And most important of all, whether he really killed her or not......which right there would be one thing I'd tweak. I would have loved to see small flash backs or hints where there may not have been answers, but at least clues as to whether he actually killed the woman, or how she died, since that always shocked me.
laustic

The fact that Tatsumi's from a royal family is also what I'm most interested in.  I'm also curious if he really killed his own mother or did he feel that he was responsible for her death.
Editor

laustic wrote:
The fact that Tatsumi's from a royal family is also what I'm most interested in.  I'm also curious if he really killed his own mother or did he feel that he was responsible for her death.


It is a painful mystery in YnM. Though just now I got the funniest image in my head.

Muraki: "so, how'd yours go?"

Tatsumi: "I killed her"

Muraki: "same here. Yours fiddle you too"

Tatsumi: "What the hell!!"

I really would have liked to have known more about Muraki's mother too. There are some serious abuse vibes going on there.
Chazmy

It was made in the manga that Muraki had killed his mother, but in the anime it was mentioned that Saki did it, strange really. I am most intrigued at learning about Muraki's past. What could have went so wrong, that caused the good doctor to go all bonkers in the first place?
Jani_chan

Editor wrote:
laustic wrote:
The fact that Tatsumi's from a royal family is also what I'm most interested in.  I'm also curious if he really killed his own mother or did he feel that he was responsible for her death.


It is a painful mystery in YnM. Though just now I got the funniest image in my head.

Muraki: "so, how'd yours go?"

Tatsumi: "I killed her"

Muraki: "same here. Yours fiddle you too?"

Tatsumi: "What the hell!!"

I really would have liked to have known more about Muraki's mother too. There are some serious abuse vibes going on there.


I don't know, I just died when I saw this. That's another thing I would change, I'd make the fight between the Seceratary and maniacl doctor longer. OMFG YEY!! I wanna see more of Tats' shadow uses!!! And who better to experiment on then Muraki? ..... lol yes, that hs multiple meanings XD
Editor

I totally agree. One of the most interesting things about YnM, is that everyone is probably more deadly than Muraki is and easilly capable of obliterating the doctor if they tried. The only real weopon that Muraki seems to truly have other than a few low level demons, is he's mind, without that I don't think he'd have survived so long.

But yea, Tatsumi kicked Muraki's but, and the way the music came in on the entrance in the anime was so brilliant. I love that scene. I think it's lack of length is an indication that Muraki wouldn't be in the next book or episode if it was any longer, but yeah, I wouldn't have minded seeing them meet eachother again, when Muraki was more prepared, can you imagine the mind fuck.

But yes, we need more info on Tatsumi and Muraki's mothers. Two guys you never say "your mom" to.
pyro_o

funny thing is, they really do have something that Muraki doesn't. More power, true, and perhaps, more capabilities. But I think, though, what they have most that matters is the fact that they have compassion. Even if a guy like Muraki really DOES exsist, and inflicts so much damage, the romantic in me likes to think that the shinigami are too mindful of the fact that if they really DO kill him, they'd be obliterating a human life, even if he's so inhumane. 8D;
Editor

No. That's a very good point. I think there's also juridisctions against taking lives as well. Saying that, I think  incapacitating Muraki at least would be called for, something all the Shimigami should be capable of, hell with no powers at all Oriya can kick he's ass, (literally--but then again Oriya is coolness personified), but Muraki's mind games and tactic's always seem to trip them up.
pyro_o

of course. ORIYAAA KICK!! can totally kick his ass.. but Oriya's in 'love' with who past-Muraki is. He's trapped.

The shinigami... it goes against the 'rules' to kill without absolute necessity, ir something. I think.
Chazmy

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The only real weopon that Muraki seems to truly have other than a few low level demons, is he's mind, without that I don't think he'd have survived so long


They say the mind is the most powerful weapon of all.

As for  the shinigami not killing Muraki off because he is somewhat human, yes somewhat. I don't really think that in all honesty Muraki is all human. Call it the overly imaginative in me. But there has to be more to that guy then simple magic. How can one simple sorcerer survive all those close encounters of death and still come back each and every time. It just seems strange to me, even a magician has it’s limit.
Editor

I think the "descendents of darkness" thing is what makes me think, more than the eye, the constant survivals and dabbles in the occult, that Muraki is more than a simple human. Even if he was human once I doubt he is still fully human now.

Vol 1 Muraki:

I am you and you are me...I am a wandering fiend in need of blood to quench my thirst. We were born from the belly of the same woman...

Vol 8 Muraki:

"You and I are the same breed. We're abominations, the products of genetic expierements that violated the laws of nature. We who were born in darkness must walk in darkness. There is no escape...not for you...and not for me...because we were never meant to exsist...we're the sons of men who wear the black mark upon their forheads. We are descendents of darkness.

Okay Yoko can NOT put quotes like that in her book and expect us to think that Muraki is fully human. She just....ca not do that...no..
laustic

Yeah, I have to agree that Muraki isn't entirely human.  How much of him is human is really hard to say.  He does go on, in either vol 7 or 8, about how he's able to cleanse himself of all sin and maybe that's one of the reasons why he can continue to commit murder and who knows what else.
Jani_chan

Editor wrote:
I think the "descendents of darkness" thing is what makes me think, more than the eye, the constant survivals and dabbles in the occult, that Muraki is more than a simple human. Even if he was human once I doubt he is still fully human now.

Vol 1 Muraki:

I am you and you are me...I am a wandering fiend in need of blood to quench my thirst. We were born from the belly of the same woman...


Vol 8 Muraki:

"You and I are the same breed. We're abominations, the products of genetic expierements that violated the laws of nature. We who were born in darkness must walk in darkness. There is no escape...not for you...and not for me...because we were never meant to exsist...we're the sons of men who wear the black mark upon their forheads. We are descendents of darkness.

Okay Yoko can NOT put quotes like that in her book and expect us to think that Muraki is fully human. She just....ca not do that...no..


OMFG, this made me think!!! Stupid idea. What if they're related!? Okay, I shut up now. My odd incestful thoughts will go hide in my closet again.
pyro_o

haha- what Jani said reminded me of a great fic (ON FF.NET! WOAH. XD)

it's by Luna Burgundy Quote-chan, and it's a series, the first one being "Till Second Death Do Us Part". Quite an interesting spin on things, I think. Very HappyD Tsusoka, so I suppose it isn't for EVERYBODY.. but the plot idea is .. very.. similar, let's say, to Jani's post. Very Happy
laustic

If you go to Luna's lj you'll find that she has alot of insightful posts on Yami no Matusei.  She makes alot of good points and while I don't agree with everything she says, for the most part she's right on.
Chazmy

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What if they're related!?


OMG!!! I so hope not!!!!

Something tells me I don't think they are though. I honestly think that they are not entirely human, a demonic hybrid perhaps.

Muraki knows Tsuzuki is not entirely human that there is demonic blood flowing through his veins, perhaps Muraki has demonic blood in him as well and that is one of the reasons why he is so drawn to him.

In demon behavior when searching for a mate to court a demon will sacrifice lives as gifts for their love

‘I will pile corpses at your feet.

Far fetched I know but it is just a suggestion

laustic wrote:
If you go to Luna's lj you'll find that she has alot of insightful posts on Yami no Matusei.  She makes alot of good points and while I don't agree with everything she says, for the most part she's right on.



Do you have the link?
laustic

I can't believe I missed you asking for the link to Luna's lj.  I'm really sorry about that.  Here's the link:

http://luna-glass-wall.livejournal.com/
Chazmy

Thank you,hon!!

looking up right now Very Happy
laustic

No problem!  I hope you ending reading them!

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