TsuzukixMuraki

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There is a rather large fanbase for this coupling, in my personal opinion the views and works of the fans who ship TsuzukixMuraki are unable to bring out the full potential of this couple or attend well to the issues involved. It's an unlikely couple in my opinion but what I'm more interested in is what others think about it. And if there any fans who would like to ship their TsuMu couple here. Everyones views are different and it's always good to learn what others think.

~Coco

pervy_princess84 · Re: TsuzukixMuraki

[quote="admin"]There is a rather large fanbase for this coupling, in my personal opinion the views and works of the fans who ship TsuzukixMuraki are unable to bring out the full potential of this couple or attend well to the issues involved. It's an unlikely couple in my opinion but what I'm more interested in is what others think about it. And if there any fans who would like to ship their TsuMu couple here. Everyones views are different and it's always good to learn what others think.

~Coco[/quote]

Actually there IS one person I know (not quite personally, but...) that does seem to bring out a full potential of this pair, and it lies within Lyrebird-san! Man, I sound like I'm talking about someone who could save the world! But I digress. In her fanfic "Blossoms and Blood" Muraki is something of a chimera. Her fic is VERY good, beyond any description. Her grammar in her fic is excellent; and there are some scenes that I find very humorous! Plus, she writes the smex between the couple in such LOVELY detail! Wink

She is perhaps one of the few fanfic writers that actually updates each chapter and not go on the word of doom: hiatus!

But that's just what I believe...

admin

*huggles* Thank you pervy princess!! I think I have actually heard of that author now I come to think of it, I'm going to look for their work but I'd really love if you could post a link for others to follow as well. I've heard many interesting views about this pairing especially on ff.net and have thought it difficult to pull off effectively, but it's such an intriguing, dark pairing that I'd instantly find an interest in it if there were work out there to grab me. Though I have to admit, for some reason or another, and I don't know why, this pairing doesn't really grab me, which is why I want to hear from the fans of this pairing as well.

pervy_princess84

[quote="admin"]I'm going to look for their work but I'd really love if you could post a link for others to follow as well.[/quote]

Oops! Sorry! Here's a quickie way for others to get to it: http://www.fanfiction.net/s/1673537/1/

Lyrebird-san is probably one of the VERY few MurxTsu fanfic pairing that writes with GOOD GRAMMAR! Most of the others, of any 'shipping, have countless bad grammar, misspellings, and so on.

pyro_o

It's actually very interesting- not like Tsusoka, but still rather satisfying in some ways.

It's not Subaru and Seishiro or anything- Tsuzuki isn't a masochist..I hope.

But there's actually some sexy appeal on Muraki trying to rape Tsuzuki and use his body to resurrect his dead brother at the same time.. or so I've heard. XP

Chazmy · Re: TsuzukixMuraki

Chazmy

There is a wonderful essay also written by lyrebird. That has described the relation between Muraki and Tsuzuki in great terms.

You can find it here: { i was personally amazed }

All credit goes to Lyrebird.

http://community.livejournal.com/ship_manifesto/54688.html

Veleda

I've read that essay a few times in the past. It's very intelligently written, however I have few problems with it.

The first is that Lyebird uses pictures from the artbook to argue for the couple in canon. That doesn't work. The artbook is not canon. It wouldn't matter if the artbook had a huge picture of Muraki and Tsuzuki having hot, sweaty mansex; it wouldn't change Muraki and Tsuzuki's canon relationship. If you're going to convince me that a pairing works in canon, you need to use information from canon. I really like Tsuzuki/Watari, but I'm not claiming that the official art of them cuddled up means anything. (Besides "pairing the pretty boys up is fun.")

She also uses the drama CD as evidence. If I'm going to be gentle, I'd point out that just as events in the anime have no bearing on the manga, so the drama CD is its own canon and can't be used as support for an anime/manga argument. If I want to be little harsher, I'd point out that the drama CD is such a bastion of OOCness, that it's pretty much futile to try and discern anything from it. The fact that Tatsumi and Hisoka would allow Tsuzuki to make the bet he did in the first place is ridiculous. Even if we ignore the fact that they wouldn't want to place him in that kind of danger, not allowing him to call his shikigami would make him a far less effective worker. You can't tell me that Tatsumi would condone anything that would decrease office productivity.

Lyebird also points to Tsuzuki's "There is a vampire inside me" monologue. The only problem here is that anyone can see that Tsuzuki is being stupid here. Tsuzuki is nothing like a vampire. He doesn't choose which lives he takes, he takes no pleasure in the job, and he gets no personal benefits. He's not a vampire and he's not a serial killer. Comparing a shinigami to Muraki is like comparing a police officer confiscating heroin to a burglar--sure they're both taking stuff, but the context is totally different.

My final argument is with her statement, "Unconditional support and love isn't really the answer: both men have close friends, but that hasn't stopped them from sinking into anger and guilt and self-hatred at a moment's notice." My first reaction to this statement is that it's a bit like telling a cancer patient, "Well, the chemotherapy hasn't worked, so we're going to try beating you over the head with a shovel." Just because A has failed doesn't mean that B will succeed. My second objection is that saying that friendship hasn't stopped Muraki and Tsuzuki's self destructive patterns make sense for Muraki--he and Oriya have been friends for over a decade--but it doesn't work for Tsuzuki. Tsuzuki has had almost a hundred years to build up his misery. Saying that love and support are useless just because Hisoka hasn't made it all better in two or three years doesn't make any sense. Plus there's the fact that Hisoka has made a difference. In the Kyoto arc, Hisoka gives Tsuzuki the will to live. Muraki makes him want to die. Which is more helpful?

...This all reminds me of the post I came here to make. I should go do that.

Chazmy

As I had said in another forum spread :

Interpretations are the hardest to come by when dealing with these two. I honestly don't think love will ever play a factor in their lives together. But as I said once before it never hurts to play outside the box either. That is why fandoms and fan fiction are made. So that we as individuals can interpret in our own mind, stories of fantasies that are not likely to happen in the actually dealings of the series. Basically saying, that it is ok to have stories with this pairing as lover's or rivals. Not everyone can agree to disagree. I for one enjoy a diversity of stories with this pairing in particular.

The only thing I can say about Muraki and Tsuzuki in what I interpret in Yoko Matsushita's YnM is that there is no doubt a physical attraction between both characters. That is truly the appealing part of it and makes it all the more fun to play the characters in stories with. There are countless possibilities.

I like Lyrebirds essay, because she goes into a great deal of possibilities [not saying all of it is true but there is possibilities ] with Muraki & Tsuzuki. Enough to leave room for one to think about

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Chazmy

OMG! ok that was funny.

now for those links

Dark Adaptation by Hickock [ probably one of the best next to Blood and Blossoms in my opinion ] Very Happy

It has both Muraki x Tsuzuki and Watrai x Oriya

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2199431/1/Dark_Adaptation

Heal me Broken by elveljung

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2379464/1/Heal_Me_Broken

Editor

What was funny? I wanna know.

WatarixOriya!? *gonk* Shocked

Thanks a lot for the links.

Chazmy

Your last comment Very Happy

Your welcome too. Watari & Oriya is a surprisingly good pairing.

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Chazmy

LOL! no you don't have to stare at the screen to long If you read her fic ' 'Dark Adaptation '. She really puts the pairing together really good. I couldn't believe it myself. But I just got so drawn into the story and WOW!!

or I could just draw something up with the two Very Happy

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