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Veleda



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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hisoka is so strong. It's one of the reasons that I adore him.

Why did Muraki accept Hisoka's challenge? I think it's because having sex with Tsuzuki is not Muraki's top priority by a long shot.  For Muraki, emotional anguish and mind games are even better than sex.  So what if he risks losing Tsuzuki for the night? The chance to screw with both Tsuzuki and Hisoka's minds is too good to pass up. And besides, Muraki seems to think that it's only a matter of time until he makes Tsuzuki his. Even if he loses one chance, what does it matter? He can wait.
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laustic



Joined: 09 Jul 2006
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Location: Florida

PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your English is just fine  Smile  

I've always been very interested in the curse marks that Muraki placed upon Hisoka.  I'm repeating myself here, but I have the idea that even Muraki isn't entirely aware of how deep this unwanted bond goes.  Hisoka sensed him the beginning of the Queen Camilia arc when Muraki was "calling" to him.  Muraki seemed a bit surprised to see that Hisoka was on board on the ship.  And of course, there was the nightmare he had of Muraki raping him and the curse marks flaring up.
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pyro_o



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Location: somewhere over the Rainbow....

PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

curses are fascinating things. and I do think that those marks were of even more powerful magic than what Muraki had intended, indeed.

it'd be interesting, to see what kind of marks that the doctor has, himself. what an interesting idea.

but there are scars that the man has left on Hisoka that are physical- while some others are not. it does make the reader wonder if he ever meant it go so far as it has, or if he is discovering it, and taking sadistic glee in these discoveries.

still doesn't really make me like him. XD
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laustic



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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's true that we don't know what kind of Muraki has himself.  We're not even sure what kind of power he really has and how he obtained it.  I remember reading somewhere people speculating that Muraki gave up his eye in order to gain more power.
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kyomine



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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the connections with hisoka is fascinating really, not yet explore but may be one day it will be done by matsushita to finish the series?

it's even more exciting to think Muraki is really surprise by the power of his curse toward hisoka. it's not intend but something out of control, that is trying to figure out, that why he is not so how can i say, he is not so all  about it ...

He really seems to leave Hisoka doing things without really stop him, like i said the fact he aggreed to replay the poker game... i m still stunned...

there definitely something , hisoka and muraki are so different but at the same time, i  can be scare than Hisoka can  cross the line that lead to be like him. I understand why he is so scare of it. Hisoka may feel it's not something that it can't happen. Like his desire for power, understable and from now he is handle it well, seems just wanted power to be equal with tsuzuki and not harm anybody. Also i think Tsuzuki is keeping Hisoka's sanity with his understanding, love. there was also a scaring line from hisoka searching for power and to show people who didn't threat him well his power and make them bow. I was pretty stunned. seems scary

but i don't want to think if one day he feels betray by tsuzuki for whatever reasons it could be.

Hisoka is not the suicidal type, but more like muraki the revenge one. Also their pasts and the twisted family...

i m gonna stop here, i can't stop myself with muraki and hisoka
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laustic



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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One' of Hisoka's biggest fears is becoming like Muraki.  I think he recognizies the similarities between them.  Of course, I don't think Hisoka is capable of turning into another Muraki, but it's obviously something he has thought about.


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