Like so many people, Hisoka/Tsuzuki is my favorite pairing. I love the way they complement each other, I love their unspoken understanding. I love the way Hisoka gives Tsuzuki antacids in the second manga volume. It's not a big moment, it goes unremarked. That's what makes it so special to me. Hisoka cares, and it's the little things that show that. I love the fact that Tsuzuki can immediately tell that Hisoka isn't feeling well in the sixth volume. It's not visible to anybody else, but Tsuzuki knows. I love that their relationship isn't perfect, that sometimes they hurt each other, because that makes the fact that they stay together all the more meaningful.
It always confuses me when people write off Hisoka/Tsuzuki as just a fluff pairing. These are two incredibly damaged, hurting people. They're very, very different from one another. Usually that means that they complement each other, but sometimes it means that they hurt each other unintentionally. Tsuzuki's pain has been building up for one hundred years, and Hisoka has no experience with comforting someone. When he doesn't know how to help, he lashes out, and while Tsuzuki can usually take that in stride, sometimes people want comfort.
They have so many issues, and, for me, that's what makes their relationship so powerful. _________________ But I'll push myself up through the dirt and shake my petals free. I'm resolved to being born and so resigned to bravery.
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Tsuzuki/Hisoka of any form is my OTPOA--My one tue pairing of all. Never have I thought that two characters should be together so much before. I think they were the intended pairing from the beginning, actually, and it's my personal opinion that Yoko brought Tatsumi in because she was bored with them, but that's a whole 'nother rant.
Honestly, they're pretty much canon. I mean, just the end of voulme three. That's all I say. And Kyoto. Volume three and Kyoto.
I concur with pretty much everything said here.
One thing I hate, however, is when people seem to fit Tsuzuki into the typical strong seme roll and Hisoka into the typical weepy uke role. Honestly, they could be both. The beauty of their relationship is that once they get up to the point where they both trust each other, the need for assigned roles in the relationship is useless, since they'd be on such a level with each other.
I also hate the instant amazingly gratifying sex the two have in fanfiction, and then the amazing sex lives they have. Honestly, I don't see Tsuzuki and Hisoka very interested in sex, espeically Hisoka. When they get up to that point, I don't think it's instantly going to be good sex. Hisoka probably won't enjoy the physical sensations much at all and his empathy would be absolutely overloaded, and Tsuzuki would probably be so worried about Hisoka that he'd not find much enjoyment at all. It would take a couple of tries for them to get it right to the point where they can enjoy it, but I don't think it will be raging, constant, every night sex as soon as they get used to it. I'm spouting off personal opinions here, but I think that with Hisoka's empathy and Tsuzuki's dire need to be love, just simple gestures like kissing and hugging would mean so much more. Also, just the fact that they'd eventually get up to physical intimacy would say a lot about how much Hisoka loves and trusts Tsuzuki then.
Yeah, once again, personal opinion, love Tsusoka or Hizuki, true love, gettin' off the soapbox now. _________________
Muraki/Oriya is one the two (Muraki/Ukyou is the other) Muraki pairings that doesn't make me grimace and say "That's just not healthy." I mean, Muraki/Oriya isn't healthy either, but it seems that both characters are comfortable with the unhealthiness. Plus, in my more cynical and nasty moments, I figure that they deserve each other. _________________ But I'll push myself up through the dirt and shake my petals free. I'm resolved to being born and so resigned to bravery.
Yeah, I agree with you on Muraki/Oriya, yet I just can't see that man with ANYBODY but his fiancee. And I may be speaking to nothing, here, but does anyone wish that we'd see some fanfiction exploring the Muraki/Ukyou relationship, here? _________________
there are quite a few mentions of Ukyo when you look. =D
especially on ff.net... hm. I do remember this one story I'm alerted to- hahhh.. I forgot the name. shoot. ^^' but it stars Ukyo-san quite a bit in it..
there's also that EXCELLENT oneshot series.. Bon and Bon! ____Day. The White Day one had a story with Ukyo in it as a supporting character.
written by my good friend, ChrisRedfield_26, it's a cute read. =D _________________ ♥ ☆ ♥ ☆ J ☆ I ☆ H ☆ Y ☆ E ☆ ♥ ☆ ♥
many thanks to Rhea, because she is the Goddess of Photoshop. 8D
*waves* Hey Whispers of a Ghost! I love your fanfiction, you have alot of talent. Anyway you brought up an interesting point about Tsuzuki being the typical seme and Hisoka being a weepy uke. While I think Hisoka is incurable uke I'm not too fond of him being weepy either. I just don't buy it. What actually grates on my nerves (and I hope I don't offend anyone here) is the weepy uke Tsuzuki. I noticed that some people think just because Tsuzuki whines and cries alot that automatically makes him the uke. Come on, Tsuzuki is the most powerfull shinigami in the department and on top of that he has 12 powerful shiki. No weakling could have accompished that. I just don't buy Tsuzuki being submissive to anyone which is why I have such a problem with the Muraki/Tsuzuki relationship. While Hisoka is stronger than he gives himself credit for, he will never match the strength Tsuzuki has. He even admits this to himself in either volume 10 or 11. I don't see Tsuzuki being an overpowering seme to Hisoka, although it is hot to read. I do see Tsuzuki being on top but I firmly believe that Hisoka and Tsuzuki would be equal in their sex life.
I actually like the idea of Tsuzuki and Hisoka having a passionate sex life (although Whispers of a Ghost, I do see and agree with your view). I like the idea that Hisoka moving beyond the rape and take back what he deserves: having an intimate relationship with the person he loves. While sex isn't and shouldn't be what makes or breaks a relationship, it is an important part and I can seriously see it having a major role in the His/Tsu relationship.
Buahaha! I disagree with everyone! *has a hearty laugh at zirself*
Anyway, my main problems starts with the very concept of seme and uke (I first typed that "seme on uke." Heh, Freudian slip). Not only does it suggest automatic character traits, in confines the characters in narro roles. Who says they can't switch?
Despite that, I do believe that in the Hisoka/Tsuzuki relationship there would be someone who usually took the top position, and that is Hisoka all the way.
Hisoka's goal in life is to have control. He pushes himself harder and harder to make it clear that he won't submit to anyone. His whole life, he's been at the mercy of other people, and now he longs to prove that he and he alone is in charge of his life. He would naturally gravitate toward a sexual position that gave him that control. Plus, there's the likely aversion he would feel to being on his back and/or being penetrated. It would probably feel considerably safer for him to take a position that he has no negative experience with.
Now, look at Tsuzuki. What is Tsuzuki? He is confident in his magical and physical strength. He doesn't feel like he has anything to prove in the same way Hisoka does. Tsuzuki is also a giver. He loves to make people happy. Tsuzuki likely would a lot of fufillment in pleasing his partner. If Hisoka wanted to top, I can't see Tsuzuki having any objections.
Two more things to consider, is that magical and physical strength doesn't necessarily have anything to do with dominance, and also that bottoming, or even being submissive in bed does not make a person weak. I don't think of myself as a weak person simply because of where I prefer to be in sex, and my going to the gym and bulking up wouldn't change anything about my tastes. (Ok, that was probably way more than any of you wanted to know, but I was trying to give examples.)
There's also the fact that, while Tsuzuki is definitely a protector, he often gravitates toward submissive roles, though not necessarily sexual ones. Tatsumi takes the parental role, while Tsuzuki plays the child; Hisoka scolds, Tsuzuki apologizes (either that or gives puppy dog eyes); and the stronger Muraki comes on, the more Tsuzuki retreats. He's not a weak character, but he has behavior patterns he tends to fall back on. Hisoka, on the other hand, can evern make Terazuma toe the line, and I wouldn't say that Terazuma is particularly meek.
In conclusion, I want crack fic in which Hisoka is a super-seme who keeps all of his many uke in line. _________________ But I'll push myself up through the dirt and shake my petals free. I'm resolved to being born and so resigned to bravery.
Veleda-san is right- Hisoka does always seem to be the uke in fics.
But on the 'special cases' when he isn't, why do we think 'switch roles'? I mean- I know if you didn't write, it you'd probably have thought it at least once, or else you are the most broad-minded person on earth~
Hisoka being seme has a certain appeal and fullfillment to the role- it makes him seem like he's in control for once in his life- it goes by his pace, his actions, and by his words. Tsuzuki being uke *whoa* means that he's being loved for once. Ya know?
Or maybe not.. O.o
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