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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally i think it will always be Tsuzuki, only because Tsuzuki is the exception in Muraki's life!


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ukyou seems to be pretty important to Muraki and from what I understand, at least from the manga, she's the reason why he wants to kill Saki with his own hands.

Btw Chazmy, I love your Critical Memory Error Smile It's cute.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Very Happy { see you can clearly see where my mind always is }

I agree with Muraki caring very much for Ukyou, but I also believe that Muraki holds a very deep lustful passion for Tsuzuki. like a wife and mistress type thing. That dark side Muraki holds only Tsuzuki can quench.We all have it { well I know I do } desires for a certain someone. Dark hidden desires that you know your wife/husband/ boy-girlfriend just can't give you. but that one person you see, dream, even fantasize about can.

I just couldn't see Ukyou undergoing some of the dark cravings the doctors has built up. He is a sadomasochist. He finds pleasure in blood and cutting up things, a dark side I'm sure Ukyou has never seen. so that iswere Tsuzuki becomes the exception.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to agree with what you said about Ukyou. I don't think she knows about Muraki's dark side and I'm not sure if she would tolorate it if she did know. Muraki's a pretty obessive guy but somehow I don't think he shows that side to her.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^_^ exactually! I find that in Muraki's character because he known Ukyou that their relationship is very close, but Ukyou could not handle the truth of what Muraki really is. There for he leads a life of two different men.



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definitely. The impression I get is that he's a well respected doctor. Where that came from I'm not sure. Obviously he doesn't have a problem with getting people to trust him.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Much like the movie *American Psycho*. Muraki can play the role of good when it fits him. It's no surprize to me that, like most serial killers whether insane or not can lead a double life. Muraki is a good example of that.

The man has a certain charm and likinss about him, even as a killer he tends to play it out with his victumes very smoothly.A man who knows what he wants , when he wants it and not afriad to get it. A force to be recken with.

If you ever seen Basic Instinct.

Quote from movie : A brutal murder. A brilliant killer. A cop who can't resist the danger.

Catherine Tramell was a very attractive and charming woman. But we all knew she was the killer. So did the cop, Nick Curran. But still he came { literally }

In my belief and {I am probably getting way off the subject here } but I believe that this scenero plays a large part to the relationship Tsuzuki and Muraki have. All we would have to do to make it plausible is change the word cop to shinigami.

I'm sorry i must be rambling again.

To put it simple, Muraki is a man leading different lives. But then again, it is also clued that Muraki might not even be human. So I assume only one can guess what truely Muraki is. What kind of life he leads and perfers.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Muraki is a smooth talker and he's good looking so it must be pretty easy for him to lure people in without even having to try. Tsubaki fell in love with him because she saw him as her angelic savior. By the time she realized what kind of person he really is it's too late. She's far too deep in love with him. He certainly seems to be the kind of guy that once you get hooked into it's nearly impossible to get loose from.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

which is in a good point, from a topic I had a debate in a while ago, about if a person could possibily fall in love with a serial killer? The fact is that it could happen.

but again I am off the subject.

Indeed Muraki is smooth and charming. Even being in a profession of a doctor gives him respect. That alone makes him a very powerful and dangerous man. I would love to learn more about his past.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love to know how he met Ukyo and Oriya. I know he knew them since childhood but how did they meet? Oriya, from what I understand, is friends with Ukyo. Oriya runs a brothel that has been in his family for generations, but it's in Kyoto. Did the three of them meet in Tokyo or Kyoto? So many questions.


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