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Favourite Muraki Pairing?? MurakixTsuzuki *hearts* IT ROCKS ALL HAIL DESCENDENTS OF DARKNESS  23%  [ 4 ] MurakixHisoka *drools* ahhh the dark angsty torture of it, I'm in bitter heaven  11%  [ 2 ] MurakixOriya *oogles* oh it's such a WONDERFUL pairing, "ORIYAAA KICK!!"  29%  [ 5 ] MurakixUkyou *bowing* the sacred canon must not be interferred with, Muraki's ONLY love *watery eyes*  23%  [ 4 ] MurakixSaki *grin* it's hate, it's dark, it's hot, it's incest-what's not to like?  0%  [ 0 ] None I see Muraki with no one  11%  [ 2 ] Total Votes : 17
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Veleda Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 126 Location: State of Denial	Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:51 pm    Post subject: [quote="Yami no Kaze] actually it's generally referd to as the victim complex. it happens in real life cases of some kidnappings. the victim comes to a point where they just want to give their captor anything they want and sometimes they misinterperate this in their own minds as they've fallen in love with their captor. then suddenly it's not about getting free, it's about protecting them. if done right in a fan fic it could work, but i really don't see Hisoka just out of the blue falling for Muraki. XD i do enjoy writing onesided MurSoka fics, but i refuse to write NCS so Tsuzuki always comes to his rescue before it gets too far. Those mostly come about when someone's been particularly mean to me.[/quote] I believe you mean Stockholm Syndrome. Stockholm Syndrome is a psychological response in which a captive or victim falls in love (or is at least extrememely loyal to) their captor or abuser. It is occurs when the abuser/captor has control over the victim/captive's survival, but the abuser shows "kindness" to the victim (such as not killing them). It's a survival skill; to stay alive the victim becomes hyperaware of the abuser's needs, to the point where s/he loses him/herself. A vital part of Stockholm Syndrome is that the abuser must, at the very least, keep the victim alive. Muaki killed Hisoka. Hisoka's never been given any reason to think that bonding with Muraki would help him survive. Stockholm Syndrome comes on fast-- sometimes in as little time as three hours. If Hisoka hasn't shown shown signs of it yet, it's unlikely that he will. _________________ But I'll push myself up through the dirt and shake my petals free. I'm resolved to being born and so resigned to bravery.
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Veleda Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 126 Location: State of Denial	Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:54 pm    Post subject: Veleda wrote: Yami no Kaze wrote: actually it's generally referd to as the victim complex. it happens in real life cases of some kidnappings. the victim comes to a point where they just want to give their captor anything they want and sometimes they misinterperate this in their own minds as they've fallen in love with their captor. then suddenly it's not about getting free, it's about protecting them. if done right in a fan fic it could work, but i really don't see Hisoka just out of the blue falling for Muraki. XD i do enjoy writing onesided MurSoka fics, but i refuse to write NCS so Tsuzuki always comes to his rescue before it gets too far. Those mostly come about when someone's been particularly mean to me. I believe you mean Stockholm Syndrome. Stockholm Syndrome is a psychological response in which a captive or victim falls in love (or is at least extrememely loyal to) their captor or abuser. It is occurs when the abuser/captor has control over the victim/captive's survival, but the abuser shows "kindness" to the victim (such as not killing them). It's a survival skill; to stay alive the victim becomes hyperaware of the abuser's needs, to the point where s/he loses him/herself. A vital part of Stockholm Syndrome is that the abuser must, at the very least, keep the victim alive. Muaki killed Hisoka. Hisoka's never been given any reason to think that bonding with Muraki would help him survive. Stockholm Syndrome comes on fast-- sometimes in as little time as three hours. If Hisoka hasn't shown shown signs of it yet, it's unlikely that he will. _________________ But I'll push myself up through the dirt and shake my petals free. I'm resolved to being born and so resigned to bravery.
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Veleda Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 126 Location: State of Denial	Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:55 pm    Post subject: Yami no Kaze wrote: actually it's generally referd to as the victim complex. it happens in real life cases of some kidnappings. the victim comes to a point where they just want to give their captor anything they want and sometimes they misinterperate this in their own minds as they've fallen in love with their captor. then suddenly it's not about getting free, it's about protecting them. if done right in a fan fic it could work, but i really don't see Hisoka just out of the blue falling for Muraki. XD i do enjoy writing onesided MurSoka fics, but i refuse to write NCS so Tsuzuki always comes to his rescue before it gets too far. Those mostly come about when someone's been particularly mean to me. I believe you mean Stockholm Syndrome. Stockholm Syndrome is a psychological response in which a captive or victim falls in love (or is at least extrememely loyal to) their captor or abuser. It is occurs when the abuser/captor has control over the victim/captive's survival, but the abuser shows "kindness" to the victim (such as not killing them). It's a survival skill; to stay alive the victim becomes hyperaware of the abuser's needs, to the point where s/he loses him/herself. A vital part of Stockholm Syndrome is that the abuser must, at the very least, keep the victim alive. Muaki killed Hisoka. Hisoka's never been given any reason to think that bonding with Muraki would help him survive. Stockholm Syndrome comes on fast-- sometimes in as little time as three hours. If Hisoka hasn't shown shown signs of it yet, it's unlikely that he will. _________________ But I'll push myself up through the dirt and shake my petals free. I'm resolved to being born and so resigned to bravery.
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Yami no Kaze Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 1752 Location: g51-15 Ataries (it's a star)	Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:32 am    Post subject: Veleda wrote: Yami no Kaze wrote: actually it's generally referd to as the victim complex. it happens in real life cases of some kidnappings. the victim comes to a point where they just want to give their captor anything they want and sometimes they misinterperate this in their own minds as they've fallen in love with their captor. then suddenly it's not about getting free, it's about protecting them. if done right in a fan fic it could work, but i really don't see Hisoka just out of the blue falling for Muraki. XD i do enjoy writing onesided MurSoka fics, but i refuse to write NCS so Tsuzuki always comes to his rescue before it gets too far. Those mostly come about when someone's been particularly mean to me. I believe you mean Stockholm Syndrome. Stockholm Syndrome is a psychological response in which a captive or victim falls in love (or is at least extrememely loyal to) their captor or abuser. It is occurs when the abuser/captor has control over the victim/captive's survival, but the abuser shows "kindness" to the victim (such as not killing them). It's a survival skill; to stay alive the victim becomes hyperaware of the abuser's needs, to the point where s/he loses him/herself. A vital part of Stockholm Syndrome is that the abuser must, at the very least, keep the victim alive. Muaki killed Hisoka. Hisoka's never been given any reason to think that bonding with Muraki would help him survive. Stockholm Syndrome comes on fast-- sometimes in as little time as three hours. If Hisoka hasn't shown shown signs of it yet, it's unlikely that he will. aha. i've just always refered to it as the victim complex. but i mean if someone were to write a fic where hisoka is kidnapped again for whatever odd reason, it's possible. it's not my prefered plot, but i think it could be pulled off.
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Veleda Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 126 Location: State of Denial	Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:46 am    Post subject: Ah, I was a bit confused. A victim complex is something quite different from Stockholm Syndrome. _________________ But I'll push myself up through the dirt and shake my petals free. I'm resolved to being born and so resigned to bravery.
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pyro_o Joined: 31 Jul 2006 Posts: 1171 Location: somewhere over the Rainbow....	Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 5:59 pm    Post subject: Sometimes, I think both of the sydromes add on to the Tsuzuki and Muraki thing. After all, you do have to remember that there are two sides of Tsuzuki- the kind side that fits so well with Soka-chan.. And the 'evil' demonic side. For me, it's like that part of Tsuzuki is crying out for somebody to hurt him.. Strange masochist-sadist thing.. yah know? But on the other hand, he's still that delicate person that he always projects. So Muraki.. could go well with the evil!Tsuzuki.. I dunno. XP _________________ ♥ ☆ ♥ ☆ J ☆ I ☆ H ☆ Y ☆ E ☆ ♥ ☆ ♥ many thanks to Rhea, because she is the Goddess of Photoshop. 8D
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Veleda Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 126 Location: State of Denial	Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:40 pm    Post subject: People talk about Tsuzuki's "evil side," but I don't think there's any proof that it's actually canon. He does flip out in the Kyoto arc, but even then he's still trying to help Mariko, even if it's in a terribly bizzare way (licking her severed head). He's animalistic, but not evil. _________________ But I'll push myself up through the dirt and shake my petals free. I'm resolved to being born and so resigned to bravery.
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admin Site Admin Joined: 07 Jul 2006 Posts: 1008	Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 3:29 pm    Post subject: Veleda wrote: People talk about Tsuzuki's "evil side," but I don't think there's any proof that it's actually canon. He does flip out in the Kyoto arc, but even then he's still trying to help Mariko, even if it's in a terribly bizzare way (licking her severed head). He's animalistic, but not evil. Everyone has a dark side, and I always imagined there must be something behind it, even if its not what we all expect. Looks like there's been more votes. _________________ Admin and Editor for Yami Forums ~Coco Melancholy or ~Coco
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pyro_o Joined: 31 Jul 2006 Posts: 1171 Location: somewhere over the Rainbow....	Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:00 pm    Post subject: for the licking thing, I'm guessing that Tszuki's so far GONE that there's nothing left but primary insticts. _________________ ♥ ☆ ♥ ☆ J ☆ I ☆ H ☆ Y ☆ E ☆ ♥ ☆ ♥ many thanks to Rhea, because she is the Goddess of Photoshop. 8D
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kingofswords Joined: 02 May 2007 Posts: 101 Location: UK	Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 10:19 pm    Post subject: I voted Muraki / Tsuzuki but I have to confess my love for Muraki / Oriya too! I also love some Muraki / Tatsumi from time to time... everyone needs a little hate sex between beautiful bishies XD Surprisingly I have also read some very good Muraki / Watari too!
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